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ANY GODLY PERSON CAN SEE THAT B. HUSSEIN OBAMA IS EVIL, BUT WHAT'S UP WITH TD JAKES!!!!!! SHOCKING BETRAYAL!
In Jakes' evil mind, it's not about real character but rather about "COLOR" of the pigment of ones skin. Isn’t that prejudice? God cursed Miriam for coming against Moses when he married a woman of another skin color (get educated, read Numbers 12 and find this out for yourself). In the eyes of the Holy divine Judge we shall all soon stand before, it's not about color, it's about character! WHY DIDN'T JAKES AND THESE OTHER WOLVES PROMOTE ALAN KEYES!?!??!? HE'S ALL (100%) BLACK, NOT JUST 6% LIKE OBAMA!!!!! ALAN KEYES IS A WARRIOR FOR LIFE BUT DID JAKES PROMOTE HIM!? DID JAKES ASK ALAN KEYES TO COME SPEAK AT HIS CHURCH?!?! NOOOOOO! That's evil fruit that points to who Jakes really is! Men's hearts are seen by what they DO and what they DON’T DO ! (Prov. 20:11; Matt. 7:15-23) Though it escapes the undiscerning eye, omission is at least as evil as commission (Matt. 25:40-46).
Watch this video of TD Jakes - the deceiver who once had Al Gore (the global warming beguiler) speak at his church. In this video interview of Jakes you will notice that there is the total absence of any rebuke concerning the godless and satanic legislation of B. Hussein Obama - Jakes only speaks of Obama being "an articulate man" - well so is Satan! There is NO biblical qualification mentioned concerning leaders being articulate – only character and good fruit (1 Tim. 3:1-5). Ever hear the term "silver tongued devil"? Concerning leaders, the LORD Almighty says "He that ruleth over men must be JUST, ruling IN THE FEAR OF GOD." (2 Sam. 23:3) The most casual onlooker can see that there is no fear of God in Obama but Obama is clearly not a Christian - he's an antichrist Muslim. Even more sadly, there is no fear of God in Jakes - a man who claims to be a pastor who represents the LORD. Those who fear the LORD live and promote and legislate those things that are clearly consistent with what He gave us in His holy Word, including honoring life - "Thou shalt not kill." (Exodus 20:13) Abortion is cold-blooded, premeditated murder of innocent, precious children and any person who in any way promotes – doesn’t openly rebuke - any candidate who has the intention and voting record of killing babies, is not a Christian whatsoever but is rather the enemy of the Almighty, under His wrath/condemnation and is a partaker of other men’s sinful deeds (2 Chron. 19:2; 1 Tim. 5:22; 2 John 11).
“For he that biddeth him God speed is partaker of his evil deeds.” 2 John 11
"Shouldest thou help the ungodly, and love them that hate the LORD? therefore is wrath upon thee from before the LORD." 2 Chronicles 19:2
ANY person who votes for or endorses the democratic murder machine is guilty in the eyes of a holy God and will give account before His holy throne. If they haven’t repented and been saved, they will hear the horrible words of termination – “Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels.” (Matt. 25:41)
Jesus said “He that is not with me IS against me.” (Matt. 12:30) There is no neutral position and all moral cowards who do not stand up boldly will be terminated into the bowels of eternal damnation (Rev. 21:8).
Who will stand up and rebuke the wicked? What leader do you know who is standing forth and speaking divine truth? Billy Graham won’t! Jakes won’t! Moral cowards!
“Who will rise up for me against the evildoers? or who will stand up for me against the workers of iniquity?” Psalms 94:16
In this video Jakes says he's going to "balance" abortion/MURDER with other issues like "global warming"?!?!?!?!?!?!? Are you kidding me!!!!! How does any other "issue" even compare? Does this need explanation??? This is a mere masking of his deceptive political compromising of the truth .... if you ever wondered if Jakes were a wolf, wonder no more. If Jakes truly cared about blacks he would stand up and declare war on the evil and satanic abortion industry in order to inspire people toward God's standards of holiness and wage war against the enemy of life and souls. If Jakes truly cared about black people he would do this because percentage wise, the community that is suffering most from killing its own babies is the black community! Go figure!
Friend, get in the Word for yourself and be not led astray with the error of the wicked but rather "try (test) the spirits to see whether they are of God for MANY false prophets have gone out into the world." (1 John 4:1; 2 Pet. 3:17). Wolves hide behind EVERY religious costume known to man – so drop your sinful identification with any religion, color of skin, or any other superficial disguise and live only by God’s Word – or you will not make it. Trust God not men ! YOUR eternal soul is in the balance. Jesus repeatedly forewarned us of "MANY false prophets" who would lead "MANY" (millions/billions) into eternal damnation (Matt. 24:4-5, 11, 24). This is the ultimate war for the souls of men that must be won by Jesus and by you - by choosing Jesus Christ and His truth above all others - even if it costs your very life. Oh, but if it costs your life, you will immediately be WITH Him (YAYA Jesus! don't miss Heaven for the world - Rev. 21-22). He said that those who deny Him will be denied Heaven and those who confess Him will be honored and received into eternal glory (Mk. 8:34-38; Lk. 12:8-9).
On this video Jakes says that he never endorses any candidate. What! He deceptively and underhandedly endorses this Muslim B. HUSSEIN Obama. This makes it all the more deceitful and insidious. To Jakes, it's all about his skin color - how shallow can we be?!
Where are the black pastors and leaders who should be standing up and coming out boldly against this evil man!?!?! Where are the pastors period!? Here’s where God says they are – go read this Isaiah 56:10-12.
Where is TD Jakes' stand? Not only is Jakes not standing against the wicked agenda of Obama, he is actually helping it and therefore under the "wrath" of God for helping the enemy of the LORD (2 Chron. 19:2). Jakes has shown himself to be self-serving and spineless as he has laid down as a moral coward whose "god is his belly." (Phil. 3:18-19) Where is Creflo "holla for the" Dollar? huh? Where is Eddie Long? Where is Tony Evans!??!? ANY pastor who has not come out against this evil man (Obama) is a moral coward, false prophet, hireling, and a wolf who cares for his own ministry, reputation, and future and could care less about the welfare of the people! You can quote me on that one (please do) - todd tomasella - "less than the least of all saints" (Eph. 3:8) www.SafeGuardYourSoul.com
In this video interview, Jakes' speech is overtly compromising - this nation was established by men who upheld the one true God of the Bible and His Son Jesus Christ and TD Jakes does not stand with them whatsoever - he is a counterfeit compromiser and a wolf who is leading many into spiritual darkness and ultimately damnation (2 Thess 2:9-12; Isa. 9:16; 56:10-12) (if your time is limited, skip to the middle)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2p0xZjPlYGw
Make no mistake: True men of God stand forth and preach the truth - no matter what the cost, because they serve God and not men (Matt. 6:24; 10:28; Lk. 12:4-5; Gal. 1:10; 2 Tim. 4:2-4). They are crucified with Christ and love not their lives unto the death (Acts 20:24; Rev. 12:11). Christ and heart character and fruit is what is essential to the LORD and His true servants - not skin pigment! Jesus shed His precious blood for “ALL” men – for all our sins which are not in our skin pigment but rather in our HEARTS! “And they sung a new song, saying, Thou art worthy to take the book, and to open the seals thereof: for thou wast slain, and hast redeemed us to God by thy blood out of every kindred, and tongue, and people, and nation.” (Revelation 5:9) WILL YOU BE THERE or are you going to hell and the lake of fire? Ready or not – Jesus is coming.
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The Supremacy of Christ
“God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets, Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds; Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high.” Hebrews 1:1-3
The remnant disciple should take pleasure alone in the divine Person, work, and riches of Christ. It is in Jesus Christ alone that “the treasures of wisdom and knowledge…are hid.” (Col. 2:3) We are “complete in him, which is the head of all principalities and powers.” (Col. 2:10). The saint of Christ is privileged to savor and be ever grateful for the fullest sufficiency of “the redemption that is in Christ Jesus” who is the “propitiation for our sins.” (Rom. 3:24-25; 1 Jn 2:2; 4:10). He is afforded the opportunity to appreciate and delight in Christ’s name, life, power, and superiority, as the only “Head,” “high priest,” and mighty “Potentate” or supreme Ruler of His eternal kingdom. All others posing as such unduly elevate themselves as they seek to steal His glory. These are brazen wolves, thieves, counterfeit, and wholly false (Matt. 7:15-20;
24:5, 11, 24; Jn. 10:1; Col. 2:4-19; Heb. 3:1; 2 Jn. 7-11).
“Which in his times he shall show, who is the blessed and only Potentate, the King of kings, and Lord of lords; Who only hath immortality, dwelling in the light which no man can approach unto; whom no man hath seen, nor can see: to whom be honour and power everlasting. Amen.” 1 Timothy 6:15-16
There exists no one else except Christ who is all of God, Creator, Redeemer, Savior, Counselor, and King of all kings (Jn. 1:1-4; Col. 1:15-17; Eph. 3:9; Heb. 1:2-3; Rev. 1:8). Jesus Christ is unique in all of history. No other was born of a virgin by the Holy Ghost, called “God with us,” showed us the Father, lived a perfect and sinless life, conquered death by “the sacrifice of himself,” satisfied the claims of the Father’s justice as He did “taste death for every man,” died on a cross with the superscription “THE KING OF THE JEWS,” was buried and guarded by numerous soldiers and then fulfilled His own prophecy by rising from the dead to prove He is the very Son of God and Messiah, and promised to return for His own (Matt. 1:23; 24:30; 27:37; Jn. 1:1-4; 14:9; Rom. 1:4; Heb. 2:9; 9:26). There is no one comparable to Jesus Christ.
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IF YOU ARE IN LEADERSHIP AND IN ANY WAY
ENDORSED INSTEAD OF EXPOSING THE TODD BENTLEY FIASCO, THIS IS AN OPEN LETTER TO YOU (below)
In an article titled “The Needed Closure on Todd Bentley,” Chris Elrod, Sr. Pastor, Compass Point Church, Lakeland, FL, states:
“When the first news began to break around here about Todd, healings, and the revival, I went to see it for myself. In all, I attended four separate ‘revival’ meetings over a two-month period. I also watched countless hours of the events on the Internet. I witnessed Todd hollering ‘BAM’ a lot. I witnessed ‘verification teams’ in the parking lot carefully choosing people deemed candidates for ‘healing’ while turning many others down. I watched ushers push ill children away from the stage area because they had not been pre-approved for ‘healing.’ ... I heard stories about pixie-dust-spreading angels and conversations with the Apostles in some abstract heavenly cabin. I saw leg drops, high kicks, head punches, and every other Wrestlemania cliche under the sun. I heard anonymous crazy stories about people being healed and others being raised from the dead. I heard and saw many strange things -- but nothing that even remotely kept with sound doctrine. Every biblical-discerning bone in my body showed me that there was nothing going on at the "revival" that was in keeping with God's Word.” Chris Elrod, Sr. Pastor, Compass Point Church. Lakeland, FL (entire article here... )
Concerning the Dutch Sheets Apology....... (from todd tomasella)
http://www.dutchsheets.org/index.cfm/pageid/284
“There is a conspiracy of her prophets in the midst thereof, like a roaring lion ravening the prey; they have devoured souls; they have taken the treasure and precious things…” Ezekiel 22:25
Shouldn't Sheets have been openly exposing this Lakeland sham from the start? Lakeland was a fabricated "revival" with not one validated "miracle" and a complete stage act to draw attention and money to those who perpetrated this evil scheme. They succeeded and at the expense of the souls of tens of thousands (Ezek. 22:27). This was a "conspiracy" among false prophets (Ezek. 22:25-27). As we look back honestly upon Toronto and Brownsville, we will see that there are a few certain easily manufactured elements that draw
masses of gullible people from all over the nation to come to a staged "revival." These guys know this. They worked from their knowledge of 'what it took' to get people to come to Brownsville and Toronto. I know that some good things can happen in spite, but all 3 of these so-called "revivals" were manufactured and masterminded (staged). This was a set up from the beginning as was Brownsville and Toronto. There was no holiness preaching, repentance, judgment to come, hell, or Jesus is coming message. Any leader who didn’t see this and openly warn in order to protect Christ’s flock, is a brazen wolf himself!
“For the leaders of this people cause them to err; and they that are led of them are destroyed.” Isaiah 9:16
HERE'S THE VERY FIRST EARMARK/LANDMARK REASON THAT LAKELAND WAS FRAUDULENT:
Bentley never preached the Word of God and this ALONE makes him totally false - Isaiah 8:20; 2 Tim 4:2; 1 Pet 4:11. Jesus and His prophets and apostles preached God's Word - Bentley didn't and is therefore revealed as a wolf.
When Sheets saw that the Word of God was not being preached, where was he? Where was Dutch Sheets when the first week of this "revival" went by and Bentley had barely broken out the Word of God/Bible and preached from it? Where were the other lame and cowardly wolves who later laid hands on Bentley and fully endorsed his ministry of evil to destroy souls? (Ezek. 22:25-27) Satan belly laughed as those delirious clowns gathered around Todd Bentley and promoted him. Have you seen that video on YouTube? If you see that video now, you will be utterly embarrassed if you did anything less than expose this whole "revival" as a fraud. Take note to every single one of the wolves who laid hands on, prophesied to, and ordained Bentley. Every one of them is marked as false by the true body of Christ in obedience to the LORD Himself (Rom. 16:17-18).
“For MANY deceivers are entered into the world….” 2 John 7
I have to conclude that these leaders don't even study Scripture themselves or they would have known this simple truth themselves - that where no written Word of God is preached, a wolf is present (2 Tim. 2:15; 3:16-17). The NT pattern is first the preaching of the Word and then if He chooses, the LORD confirms the Word (after it's preached and lived) with signs following (Mark 16:15-20). In the book of Acts there seems to be two mainstays that surround and precede miracles - fervent prayer of the saints and the preaching of the Word. Todd Bentley never preached God's Word and this alone should have told us immediately (from the onset) that he was/is totally counterfeit. At that point, men of God rose up and openly denounced and exposed the darkness. These are men who fear God and not men (Gal. 1:10).
It seems in his apology that Dutch Sheets is still speaking as to please men (Prov. 29:25). He seems apologetic to those other leaders he doesn't want to offend. This is regrettable. We are commanded to "Fear God and keep his commandments, for this is the whole duty of man." (Eccl. 12:13) His tone seems to be that of one who is wanting to salvage his relationship with mere men and therefore treading lightly in order not to too awfully offend them. We were commanded by Jesus Christ to fear the One who "after he hath killed hath power to cast into hell" - to be consciously tormented for eternity (Lk. 12:4-5).
Surely all the leaders involved, including Sheets, had to know Todd Bentley has a large tatoo on his arm (gotten within the last 2 years) that has the face of "Jesus'" upside down with a monkey and snake in the beard and hair which is outright mockery of the Son of God and likening Him with "Satan." Revelation 20:2 says "And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan..."
Has anyone stopped to investigate if Bentley is a plant, a satanic warlock who has insidiously and purposely infiltrated the gullible leaders and masses of sign seekers? (Matt. 12:39) As Sheets himself points out, there is no discernment among the wolves who are in leadership in the whole charismatic movement.
“…like wolves ravening the prey, to shed blood, and to destroy souls, to get dishonest gain.” Ezekiel 22:27
Wolves don't want to expose wolves or teach people how to discern - because if the people learn to discern wolves, they themselves will be found out. Every God-fearing leader teaches discernment and warns the flock of God in order to protect them (Ezek. 44:23-24; Matt. 7:15; Acts 20:27-32; Col. 1:28' 2:4, 8, etc.).
Those true to Christ invariably "earnestly contend for the faith once delivered to the saints." (Jude 2-3)
If Dutch Sheets truly repents before the LORD, he will at once completely denounce (wholesale) the "apostolic," “prophetic,” and charismatic movements which are clearly shown to be utterly false in that they simply do not reconcile with NT Christianity as seen in the NT Scriptures. No one who remains in these movements has truly repented and turned back to Christ (Matt. 3:7-8). True repentance always brings forth fruit that testifies to that deliverance and the manifestation of such is clear and obvious (2 Cor. 7:9-10).
“Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try (test; examine) the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.” 1 John 4:1
Even though Sheets' apology is too little too late, some parts of Sheet's "apology" are good. It is regrettable though that Sheets still includes himself as a leader in this false movement. He says "We, the leaders of the charismatic church..." Sheets will do best to publicly and forthrightly denounce any and all association with the “charismatic, "prophetic," and so-called "apostolic" movements and all the wolves who perpetrate their rebellion against the Almighty through these movements. No man who is true to the LORD would align himself with such deceivers and false prophets. He will divorce himself from this “conspiracy” against Christ that is aligned to “destroy souls.” (Ezek. 22:25, 27)
“Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.” Matthew 7:15
Biblical Christianity is what we are called to. The truth is, that the only safe identification is in the divine Person of Jesus Christ as revealed in the Bible. After that fact, our identification is with those who are bought by Christ's blood and learning to worship "Him in Spirit and in truth" - getting back to the simple model we see in Acts 2:42-49 of house-to-house fellowship which included 4 simple elements (the Word, fellowship in Christ, eating together, and prayer). (Jn. 4:23-24) See also Colossians 3:16-17. It's all about Jesus! (Jn. 12:21) His true worshipers in this late hour seek "the simplicity that is in Christ" (2 Cor. 11:3). To experience such blessed fellowship with Jesus and His people, one must "come out from among" the apostate churches and their false leaders (Isa. 9:16; 2 Cor. 6:14-18; Rev. 18:4). Such purity of worship cannot be experiences when a believer places himself under wolf leaders who will continue to beguile and wreak havoc upon any person involved in the charismatic movement (2 Tim. 3:13; 2 Pet. 2:1-3). Were we not forewarned? (Matt. 7:15-20; 24:3-5, 11, 24, etc.)
"And they shall teach my people the difference (to distinguish) between the holy and profane, and cause them to DISCERN between the unclean and the clean." Ezekiel 44:23
God be praised for His watchmen on the wall who hold forth His truth no matter the cost (Ezek. 44:23-24). Many of those exposing these deceptions and the wolves who perpetrate them are not "heresy hunters" but rather simply obeying the command of God to "mark them who cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine" of Holy Scripture (2 Tim. 3:16). There were refreshing scores of God-fearing men who exposed Bentley and the Lakeland fiasco as false. The LORD be praised for these men of God who saved thousands from being deluded by the wine of this false revival. Many who initially bought into it were also rescued out of it. It was/is the scalded dogs who were/are barking back at (objecting to) those who would dare expose them (Isa. 56:8-12). This further demonstrates their refusal to repent before the LORD and the presence of pride and arrogance in their deceived hearts (2 Tim. 3:13). Satan himself is the “king over all the children of pride.” (Job 41:34)
“But what I do, that I will do, that I may cut off occasion from them which desire occasion; that wherein they glory, they may be found even as we. For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ. And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed (disguised) into an angel of light. Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works. I say again, Let no man think me a fool…” 2 Corinthians 11:12-16
Any person in leadership who endorsed Todd Bentley or espouses I.H.O.P. (International House of Prayer), any of the “Kansas City prophets,” the so-called “prophetic” movement, or “apostolic” movement, should be rebuked and exposed as false (Rom. 16:17-18; Tit. 1:9-13). Any leader who refuses to repent before the LORD for his own wickedness and completely and publicly denounce any and all evil connection with these wolves and their ravenous organizations, is false.
The ﾓNew Apostolic Reformationﾔ Deception
Kansas City Prophets
The leaders of these above mentioned movements are clearly and obviously not grounded in God's Word which is His "MORE SURE word of prophecy" - even more authoritative than the Father's audible voice speaking from Heaven (2 Pet. 1:16-21). Any movement whose leaders are not soundly grounded in the revelation of Holy Writ and following it diligently and studiously, is bound to be false presently and leading to even more evil being perpetrated upon all involved.
(First of all, please know that this writer is a Holy Spirit filled disciple who believes in the full manifestation of the power and gifts of the Holy Ghost today (Rom. 15:29; 1 Cor. 12:7). There is nothing good in him except the Holy Spirit and grace of Christ (Rom. 7:18; Tit. 3:5-6).
Jesus is Coming,
todd tomasella
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God TV recently sent out a letter telling everyone that since Todd Bentley's marriage is in peril, they are discontinuing the Lakeland "revival." Duhhhhh (sorry and please forgive me....couldn't help myself and didn't want to ;) In response, several days ago I emailed God TV the following. At this time we have not received any response back from God TV and suppose we won't. Blessings in Jesus, todd
Dear GodTV,
Thank you for the correspondence regarding Todd Bentley's family.
Is this too little, too late? I want to encourage you to consider your decision to ever air such a false prophet in the first place. It is more than obvious that Bentley is counterfeit as we compare his ministry with Scripture. First off, he never preaches the Word in the biblical sense which alone makes Him false in God’s eyes (Isa. 8:20). Why not in your eyes? Who are you following? Also, there has never been even one "miracle" validated. The list goes on as to the falsity of this sham of a "ministry" to the point that it is absolutely unthinkable that anyone has to show another who claims to know Christ just why this man's ministry is so very irreconcilable with what we see in the lives and ministries of Christ and His holy apostles.
It is regrettable that you aided and abetted, endorsed, and perpetuated the ministry of such a wolf who has destroyed and devoured a myriad of God's sheep and seeking souls (Isa. 9:16; Ezek. 22:27). You are fully responsible in the eyes of Him who is "holy, holy, holy" and if repentance is not rendered, will suffer the same penalty as this "evil worker" whose evil cause you have promoted to millions (Phil 3:1-2; 17-19; 2 Jn 7-11). You will be “partakers of his evil deeds” - in other words you will partake of his judgment since you didn't choose to expose him but rather promote him (2 Jn. 10-11). While you should have been marking and exposing this man in whom is "no light" (Isa. 8:20; Rom. 16:17-18), you were actually making him a worldwide celebrity as he led millions to a false faith through his hype, no-reality scam of a "revival." The whole thing has been a scam to garner attention from the masses using "good words and fair speeches" to "deceive the hearts of the simply." (Rom. 16:17-18; 2 Pet. 2:1-3)
LORD have mercy on us for what we have done to defame Your holy name!
Jesus is coming
todd tomasella
www.SafeGuardYourSoul.com
OPEN LETTER to WAGNER, JOYNER...
-by Andrew Strom.
I write this as a tongues-speaking, Spirit-filled, prophesying believer. Please feel free to pass this open letter on to others, that the truth may be fully revealed.
Dear Rick Joyner and C. Peter Wagner,
I will do my utmost to avoid disrespect in this letter. But I cannot avoid the hard questions which must be asked.
I hope my comments here are not construed as "arrogant". This
is certainly not my intent. But I'm sure you have heard the news
by now that the tide has turned in what you call your "Civil War".
I'm sure you have heard that the Lakeland meetings have dwindled,
and the "big tent" has been abandoned in favor of the 700-seat
Ignite church once again. I'm sure you have heard that your man
Todd Bentley's meetings in England have been cancelled, and
that respected leaders even within your own movements have
found vast evidence of falsehoods, fraudulent claims, manipulation
and hype of the most blatant kind. The news of it is worldwide. It
is not just ABC Nightline. It is your own people saying these things.
I'm sure you have heard the news that has even shocked and
saddened me - that the British press is calling Bentley "A US
child sex offender turned church minister who tries to cure cancer
victims by kicking them" - and that 79% of Britons polled want to
keep him out of the country. Where is the glory to Jesus in this?
How could Todd even set foot in England under such a cloud?
Sirs, if this really were a 'Civil War', aren't you living in Gettysburg?
Mr Wagner, I am sure you are aware that because of your open
endorsement of Todd Bentley, numbers of your own ICA 'apostles'
(some very well-known) are already planning an "alternative"
network without all your 'Dominionist' trappings or NAR hierarchies.
Sir, they are leaving. Are you sure you were right to endorse the
Lakeland movement in the very face of your own apostles like that?
Wasn't this one of the most crucial tests of your leadership? Sir,
if your discernment is such that you could get on a stage and
openly endorse one of the most deceptive movements in the history
of the church, then - with all due respect - should you really be
heading up the apostles of the entire Charismatic world? Are you
aware that you have greatly endangered God's precious sheep all
around the globe?
And Mr Joyner, are you conscious of how terribly the Prophetic
movement has deteriorated on your watch, sir? As the most
influential 'father' in that movement, why have you stood by while
the "New Mystics" have taken over - with their gold dust, their
portals, their 'orbs', their drunken jerking, their strange "angel"
encounters and 'visualization' techniques, etc? In fact, why have
you actively encouraged and participated in these very things yourself?
Isn't it true that Bob Jones has been a big mentor for you in these
things, just like he was for Todd Bentley? Wasn't it Bob Jones
who taught you how to "visualize" your way into the 'Third Heaven',
Mr Joyner? Isn't Bob Jones one of the major hidden influences
behind your ministry? Where do you get your visions? How do you
write your books? How can we ever again trust the "angels" that
you see? Sir, what were you thinking - to openly endorse the
"New Mystics" as you did with Todd Bentley? Did you not see
that it could end so badly?
We all know what Bob Jones said when he stood on the stage with
Todd Bentley in front of the whole world:
BOB: "I released my angels to him... this man from Canada asked
for my angels; this Wind of Change is most powerful. Except for
the arch angels, this 'Winds of Change', this is the most powerful
angel..."
BOB TO TODD BENTLEY: "As I watch you, you VIBRATE. You
know there are two portals, clockwise and counter-clockwise.
When you vibrate you close demonic vibration. Counter-clockwise
vibration is demonic. The vibration is healing. Does it seem peculiar?"
[He waves his hands]... "I’m releasing it to you."
A very basic question here: Is there anything even remotely biblical
about any of this?
Mr Joyner, since Bob Jones is your major mentor, and since you
stood on the stage and openly endorsed that whole movement, I
guess we have to assume that this is the kind of "Prophetic" that
you now represent? Isn't that fair to say, sir?
And now I need to ask some questions of my colleagues overseas:
Isn't it true, my friends, that almost every deceptive fad or heresy
of the last 25 years has come out of North America? (ie. The USA
and Canada)? And hasn't it been growing worse and worse?
When I travel to Africa I find deadly "Prosperity" teaching rampant
in the most poverty-stricken of nations. When I travel to Europe
I find them bombarded with flakey 'prophets' from the States.
When I travel to Australia I find them enthralled with 'Mega-church-
Itis' imported from the USA. In every way, North America has
become a source of utter pollution, sickness and compromise -
both in the church and the world. And I believe God wants to put
an end to it.
Personally I love Americans. I lived there for four years, and I have
many dear friends in that part of the world. But I do not believe that
God is going to allow this pollution to spread any longer.
Why do leaders in Australia or Europe think that their movements must be led by Americans? What nation is most of this pollution coming from? Why do African leaders allow sick money-grubbing
telecasts from the USA to be beamed to their people via satellite? Why are any of us allowing any of this garbage? When are we going to stand up and cry, "ENOUGH"? When are we going to cut off this pollution - not just for ourselves - but for the sake of God's precious sheep? Why should we be led by America if they are leading us into deception?
Should North America even be allowed to lead the worldwide church any more?
And finally, let me return to Mr Joyner - who once intimated that it is time to "drive" out those who want to "test the spirits" in the church. Sir, let me say to you that indeed the time has come to
drive a particular spirit out. It is the spirit of rampant "Charis-mania". And sir, I have to say with all due respect, that your very own movement strikes me as the primest of prime places in which to start.
God bless you all.
Andrew Strom
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SEX!
“Marriage is honourable in all, and the bed undefiled: but whoremongers and adulterers God will judge.” Hebrews 13:4
Sex is a reality – it’s a gift from God in holy matrimony and to be enjoyed in marriage between a man and a woman (Prov. 5:15-20). Satan seeks to pervert this gift from God.
Perhaps at some point(s) we have all been pawns in the enemy’s thrust to pervert holiness and steal, kill, and destroy (Jn. 10:10).
“Drink waters out of thine own cistern, and running waters out of thine own well. Let thy fountains be dispersed abroad, and rivers of waters in the streets. Let them be only thine own, and not strangers' with thee. Let thy fountain be blessed: and rejoice with the wife of thy youth. Let her be as the loving hind and pleasant roe; let her breasts satisfy thee at all times; and be thou ravished always with her love. And why wilt thou, my son, be ravished with a strange woman, and embrace the bosom of a stranger?” Proverbs 5:15-20
MEN…. I want to share a very important bit of information with you that I know will help you immensely if you will embrace it…..a wise older Christian woman once told me: “According to Galatians 6:7-8, as a man sows in his personal life (even when no other man can see – God sees all), so he will reap in a wife – In other words, if he lives mongering (craving/chasing) after whores (a loose woman who flaunts or has sex outside of marriage), so he will reap that type of a woman.” She said “If an unmarried man lives to please and seek the LORD, he will be brought a truly God-fearing woman – he will reap according to as he lives.” Let’s grab this and run with it brothers!
“Likewise, ye husbands, dwell with them (wives) according to knowledge, giving honour unto the wife, as unto the weaker vessel, and as being heirs together of the grace of life; that your prayers be not hindered.” 1 Peter 3:7
GIRLS…ladies….Think with me for a moment….do you really think a good/godly man is going to be attracted to a whorish woman (any woman who is showing and/or giving her body unduly) OR a wholesome woman who is seeking the LORD? Okay, we know bathing suits cover less and that is understandable in that environment, but I am talking about other than a swimming pool or swim setting (without trying to be legalistic). A godly older woman (who had great impact on my life) once communicated the following to me: “The more flesh a woman reveals/shows in her dress code, the more fleshly/sinful she is in her heart and personal life.” As a man, trust me, we are visual, and yet inside a man loses respect for any woman who is showing herself to other men – that’s whorish and no man want to marry a whore (even though he may be temporarily attracted to what he sees). Any good man sees no future with a woman who is flaunting her physical body for every other man to see. Regardless of his initial attraction to your physical body that you may be showing, inside he is not comfortable but rather uneasy. Read closely this following passage addressing women specifically found in 1 Peter 3:
“Likewise, ye wives | 
